Heat exchangers will not produce steam until they reach 500C. Steam that has a higher temperature than the maximum temperature of the steam engine (165C) is consumed at the normal rate (30 units/s), and does not yield more electricity. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Does the game consider 1 water = 1 steam (just a different temperature?) All rights reserved. You can check the usage on the turbines as well as the production stat on the offshore pump. 6, crafting time is 15s, producing 0. by Amarula Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:09 pm, Post But the water only gets heated up from 15C to 500C, so by 485C. That's actually just odd. I've confirmed that the true value is indeed 5.82, and updated everything accordingly. by Honktown Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:52 pm, Post by mrvn Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:42 pm, Post The steam produced is exactly 500C hot, even if the exchanger is hotter. So the 50,000C are enough to heat up 103 units of steam per second, since 50,000 / 485 = 103.09. The optimal ratio of accumulators per solar panel relies on many values in the game. by azesmbog Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:19 pm, Post Hovering the mouse over a steam engine will display their current power production (Performance) and their possible power production (Available Performance), in a display on the right. by disentius Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:36 pm, Post The true value comes from the following facts: It takes 1 kilojoule of thermal energy to raise 5 units of water/steam 1 C, You've heated water from 15 C to 500 C; 500 - 15 = 485, Consuming steam in turbines gives you the same amount of energy back as electricity, Steam is consumed by steam turbines at a rate of 60 units/second. Calculator for the Nuclear Reactor. In general, nuclear power is produced by the following production chain: Uranium ore is mined and processed to uranium-235 and uranium-238, then uranium fuel cells are created from the two. P UMPING U NITS M EETING P HYSICS S TANDARDS This mod started off as a project to sustain my most eco-unfriendly excessive water needs by implementing some Higher Tier Offshore Pumps. by astroshak Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:58 am, Post This allows steam engines to be chained together. Each uranium fuel cell will power a nuclear reactor for 200 seconds. Sushi Belt question : r/factorio. -adding a second off-shore pump to start off with twice as much water (in theory); -putting in more pumps, say one pump for every underground pipe; -putting in a complete second line from off-shore pump to heat exchangers with a pump every 5 underground pipes. Each heat exchanger takes a maximum input 10 megawatts of heat and uses it to heat water into steam. It produces 1200 units of water per second. If the only effect the mod has on the game is it changes the total length of one day, without changing the ratio of dusk: day: dawn: night, then the equation can be simplified as. So a heat exchanger generated 103 steam per second is 103 water per second I need from my offshore pump. by Amarula Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:45 pm, Post By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. A heat exchanger consumes 10 MW. Finally, after 20 hours of work, I present the flowchart for Pyanodon Space Science! Get some landfill to straighten the edge youre gonna use. Each boiler is capable of producing enough 165C steam for two steam generators. There are mods that can add landfill tiles to existing blueprints if you're up for modding and using a blueprint rather than making your own reactor, and this design is one of my favourites - not objectively "best" perhaps, but has a certain elegance that I deeply appreciate alongside a decent serving of entirely respectable practicality. Factorio - The Best Nuclear Power Ratio To generate ten fuel cells, you will need one U-235 cell and nineteen U-238 cells. Tileable Nuclear Reactor Design. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://wiki.factorio.com/Tutorial:Nuclear_power#Neighbor_bonus. So I've run into an issue with water for my Turbines. They produce electricity by consuming steam, using water pumped from an offshore pump that was heated to 165C steam with boilers or to 500C steam with heat exchangers. Look at the windows in the pipes, hover over the pipes! Mark IIIs are unable to complete a full cycle without going into meltdown and thus need to be shutdown mid-cycle in order to deal with the high amount of excess heat. 12. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The lake under the oil field looks like a nice place, letting you place offshore pumps near the center, with the turbines extending to land. This link for calculations. Not sure where you got those numbers from, but in 0.15, small pumps and offshore pumps pump at exactly the same rate: 1200 fluid/s. The throughput of a fluid pipe depends on the length of said pipe, but you can put in pumps to pressurize the pipe and increase the throughput. What I can't find is how much water a heat exchanger *consumes* to produce the 103ish steam per second. Optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump for every 20 steam turbines; or, 25 offshore pumps for every 291 heat exchangers. So a 2x2 block produces 480MW (4*3*40). by Honktown Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:56 pm, Post If I know how much energy i'm outputting from my reactors -> figure out how many turbines -> figure out how many heat exchangers -> How many pumps do I need? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Give exchanger max heat you can then let the exchanger turn 25k water into steam. Steam engines have two ports, allowing excess steam to flow through. where game_day is the number of seconds in the game day which is 25000/60 s by default. An offshore pump produces 1200 units of water per second, which is enough for 116.4 MW. Thanks. Is the factory producing enough fuel (coal, solid fuel, uranium fuel cells)? A heat exchanger produces 10 MJ a second, therefore it produces 10MJ / 0.097MJ = 103.0927835 steam per second. You may also use this to rectify brownouts/blackouts. which, given the default time lengths of: day = 12500/60 s; dawn or dusk = 5000/60 s; night = 2500/60 s, and the default: Solar_power = 60 kW; Accumulator_energy = 5 MJ = 5000 kJ, gives the optimal ratio of 0.84 accumulators per solar panel. Heat pipes are used to transfer heat from your nuclear reactors to your heat exchangers. You can also have some steam tanks with additional turbines for power spikes (laser turrets etc) as reactors always work with 100% power tanks will store steam when you're not using it all), Factorio Cheat Sheet - That's all the information you need. One boiler consumes 1. Using steam engines for power does not produce pollution, however using boilers to heat up the water does. 40 MW of power output is consumed by 4 Heat Exchangers (10MW per Heat Exchanger ). Press J to jump to the feed. If you overbuild reactors, you can end up wasting a lot of fuel cells without realizing it. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. The current optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump to 20 boilers to 40 steam engines. Also iirc tanks limit liquid throuput when it flows through them, so try connecting them on the side and not in-line if you have to at all. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I think it is easiest to just have an abundance of storage tanks for the steam. So we know that one offshore pump can supply 20 boilers but is that the same for heat exchangers? Each turbine consume 60 water/s so 1200/60=20 turbines. A powered nuclear reactor outputs 40 megawatts of heat, plus an additional 40 megawatts for each powered nuclear reactor directly adjacent to it. This layout produces 40 MW output ( 1 SRE ). Each turbine consume 60 water/s so 1200/60=20 turbines. Fresh water is at 15C while the steam produced by heat exchangers and consumed by steam turbines is at 500C, a difference of 485C, so you need 1 unit of water for each 97kJ, which is roughly 10.3 units per MJ. Each offshore pump outputs 1200 units of water per second. you can put 4 heat exchangers at the end of ~135 heat pipes, but you can put 16 heat exchangers only at the end of ~50 heat pipes. Or so. Refer to Francis John play through video on YouTube on nuclear power. A steam turbine consumes 60 units of steam per second, which is 5.82 MW. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. This means that you need 1.428 MW of production (of solar panels) and 100MJ of storage to provide 1 MW of power over one day-night cycle. SmartAlec105 having more than 2 steam engines per boiler could do that. The above ratio can be calculated from information available in-game: One boiler consumes 1.8MW of fuel and produces energy stored in steam at 100% efficiency. r/factorio . All rights reserved. 4 Heat Exchangers boil 412.36 Water to Steam per second (103.09 per Heat Exchanger ). Do the numbers in the "beacons" column represent the number of modules or the number of beacons? Use the lake west of your copper mine. 75 crafting speed, while the induction furnaces use 3 * 1, so the ratio could be fine tuned a bit. Id probably put it on or next to either of the lakes in the middle north or middle south. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Exchanger outputs to 2 tanks. Now you have 0 waste of fuel. The steam production rate can also be calculated using the energy consumption: 1 Heat exchanger consumes 10MW, so it's putting 10,000,000 joule of energy into heating water/steam per second. In practice, there is. Electricity has to be produced before it can be transferred to consumers over the electric system. u/asdjfsjhfkdjs calculated the convergents of 500:291, and found that 7 : 4 and 55 : 32 are both fairly accurate approximations. See also the applied power math tutorial to answer the question how much coal do I need? 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Geplaatst op 3 juli 2022 door . factorio offshore pump heat exchanger ratio Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Ratio of reactors to whatever is 2x2 480MW reactor to 10MW heat exchanger, ratio of reactors to miners is 1:4 iirc, so double that miners. For more information, please see our Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 15 - Factorio Factorio Forums View topic - 0. This means a single unit of 500C steam has 5.82MW / (60/s) = 0.097 MJ of energy. They only work when they're above 500 C, and have a maximum temperature of 1000 C. Temperatures above 500 don't increase efficiency; the exchanger will just store the heat, which it can then use later. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. EDIT NOTE: The original version of the post used the wrong output for steam turbines (5.8 MW instead of 5.82). 1 offshore pump: 20 Steam Turbines. Are there enough steam generators (boilers, heat exchangers)? The current optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump to 20 boilers to 40 steam engines. Then you just connect the reactors to exchangers and exchangers to turbines, also you need about 1 water pump per 10 exchangers (in vanilla). Water: is a liquid which can be infinitely extracted from water tiles using an offshore pump; Steam: is a gas you can create by heating water in a boiler or heat exchanger; Other Factorio Guides: Boiler to Steam Ratio; Solar Panel Ratio; Console Commands & Cheats Steam engines will automatically adjust their power production and steam usage based on the current demands of the electricity network. Also, the optimal ratio is: 1 offshore pump / 14 boilers / 10 steam engines is that 10 for each boiler? And probably how many Offshore Pumps you need for them? One offshore pump can supply 20 boilers and 40 steam engines. One steam engine consumes 900kW of energy stored in steam, so each boiler can supply 2 steam engines: 1.8MW 0.9MW = 2. Doubled the heat capacity of water from 0.1kJ per degree per liter to 0.2kJ. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The steam production rate can also be calculated using the energy consumption: 1 Heat exchanger consumes 10MW, so it's putting 10,000,000 joule of energy into heating water/steam per second. 1 electric pump can keep up with rate of roughly 10 water pumps if i recall, so at least you don't need to have pump and waterpump flows in parallel. It does not require electricity or fuel to operate. . by astroshak Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:15 am, Post This can be extended as far as you want; every additional 2 reactors will provide an additional 320 megawatts of heat output. This is taken from Accumulator / Solar Panel Ratio (which calculates this in an impressive mathematical way!) by gGeorg Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:00 am, Post Heat exchangers produce ~103 steam with a temperature of 500C every second. 1 25k tank water disconnected from water input. The heat exchanger exchanges heat between a heat connection and water to produce steam . This page was last edited on 16 February 2022, at 11:27. The heat exchanger exchanges heat between a heat connection and water to produce steam. Heat exchangers are pipes too. This produces the 1:20:40 ratio. Yogi Berra. Doubled the heat capacity of water from 0.1kJ per degree per liter to 0.2kJ. Heat exchangers produce ~103 steam with a temperature of 500C every second. As shown, making the heat pipes thicker allows supporting heat exchangers that are farther away. How do you set up a reactor to get enough water to keep producing steam? Pump Ratio ^ 1. Post 120 MW ^Note: Pumps, Steam Turbines and Power are approximate for easier build ratios. It takes 200J to heat 1 unit of water by 1C. As far as I can tell, the absolute smallest perfect-ratio setup possible is: which would require an input of 1.46 uranium fuel cells per second and output a cool 46.56 gigawatts of electricity. The main thing to remember is that Factorio generally follows the laws of thermodynamics; if your nuclear reactor produces 40 megawatts of heat, you can get a maximum of 40 megawatts of electricity out the other side. makes troubleshooting easier. The Factorio devs plan some refactoring for the upcoming version 0.17. For each 100% neighbor bonus, the reactor needs 4 more heat exchangers. Here are the total requirements for certain amounts of reactors, with everything rounded up to guarantee maximum energy production. The offshore pump produces water from a lake or ocean. If you run an odd number of reactors, you should have a 2 by X rectangle with one reactor dangling off the end. One pump can supply up to 20 boilers. If not, ensure all. Is steam able to reach all steam engines? One Offshore pump can fully supply 12 (11.64) . I get that offshore pumps produce 1200 units of water per second. There are multiple methods to produce electricity: Each steam engine needs 0.5 boilers when running at full capacity.
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